specifically do not call it "VoIP" or "Internet Phone Service" to most
customers.
After all, everyone knows that "digital" is better than "analog".
Since "Hybrid Key System" is a well known industry term for a system with
digital phones but still using direct trunk selection, "Hybrid Digital Phone
System" might be a good term.
As to the sunrocket demise, it has actually been good for us so far, since a
lot of large sunrocket agents contacted us for private label service. I
talked to one guy who had almost $10K in commissions about to pay out.
John Scully
www.isupportisp.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Bochter" <Al.Bochter@bochterservices.com>
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
<asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket
>
> John Scully
>
> I agree with you.
>
> When SunRocket went out we had 3 customers cancel there VOIP PBX installs
bids do to the term VOIP
>
> And I can't or my T1-PRI providers can talk them back into the having the
bids down
>
> I was told by the customers that they don't want to loss money do to VOIP
service going under
> Never mind that we were going to use PRI's not VOIP Providers
>
> That is what I was talking about the term "VOIP" is getting pulled down
with the top dog providers going
> under like SunRocket and Vonage getting sued and any other BAD things that
may hit the newsstand
> with the term "VOIP" in it.
>
> Now try to tell a customer that is going to spend $10,000 to $150,000 on a
"VOIP PBX SYSTEM" that
> the system does not need to use "VOIP" Provides for its telcom service.
>
> That is way we don't use the term "VOIP PBX" anymore it is now a "HYBRID
PHONE SYSTEM"
> We are working on changing all of our ads to state "HYBRID PHONE SYSTEMS"
>
> That is what Asterisk is a "Hybrid System" keep in mind everyone POTS,
FXO, PRI, ETC. are not "VOIP".
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Al Bochter
> http://www.BochterServices.com
>
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> You can overview some providers others have used.
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>
>
> Nicky Smith wrote:
>
> >Well stated John.
> >I think this discussion can end now. I am exhaused just reading it.
> >
> >Nicky Smith
> >www.carolinanet.com
> >a profitable ISP/Data Center
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com On Behalf Of John Scully
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:09 PM
> >To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket
> >
> >Well guys, I hate to tell you this, but we are running several hundred
> >profitable VoIP companies. profitable for us, profitable for our
clients,
> >and the only reason they are able to sell service is that they can save
> >their customers money.
> >
> >Vonage lost hundreds of millions by running a ton of stupid TV ads, plus
> >every other possible form of direct to end user advertising. They spent
> >$500 in advertising for every sub they signed. Bad business model
Sunrocket
> >sold service below cost. Bad business model.
> >
> >Saying that that voip is not a real product is like saying that selling
> >power and gas is not real because of enron.
> >
> >There are always well funded, public companies burning cash as fast as
they
> >can in every new tech area. They just make it damn difficult for real
> >businessmen.
> >
> >John Scully
> >www.isupportisp.com
> >
> >
> >
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